What I do know, and what studies have shown, is that the amount of coverage, say, on television news given to climate change, given to the decline of the middle class, given to health care, given to unemployment, given to poverty is minimal, minimal, a fraction, a fraction, compared to the amount that talks about political gossip, who's going to run in 2020, 2090, 2400—all kinds of personality things. Campaigns should not be about candidates; they should be about the needs of the people.

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