“'Many people claim Paul condemns women serving in church leadership...but what they are missing is what he did do. He urged the church and people to treat women with levels of respect never heard of before in the ancient world. Only few today would interpret that as a condemnation of women serving in various church leadership roles. I think Paul's theology was head of him, even. Paul was saying things that he didn't completely understand, but he know—through God—that the treatment of women had to change. So he expressed that the best way he knew how to.'

'And you think the same thing applies to homosexuality?'

'Absolutely.'”