“It’s funny to see that this whole 'clean your room thing' has become—of all the stupid catchphrases! It’s like, 'really? That’s become popular?' But there’s a humility that’s in it, plus, it’s also harder than people think. It’s like, 'well, try it. Set up your room so that it’s pristine, so that it’s a place you can function, so it says what you want it to say.'”