We had nothing. I mean, I was working at a gas station. I was pumping gas. And then when I graduated from school, she was still in school. Then when I got a job working at a wet-wash laundry because I couldn't get a teaching job, we had jack shit for money. She was working in a Dunkin' Donuts when I finally got a teaching job. We didn't have a phone in the house, and we had two babies. Don't ask me why we did that. I can't remember what the mindset was there.

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