Nestor Rosario: Haven't been out here in years. We used to go out on the rocks, try not to get knocked off by the waves, you know? Wasn't much else to do that didn't involve getting drunk. Used to do that, too. [soft snicker] A little bit, you know? Malt liquor mostly. Malt liquor gets a bad rap.

Jude Ellis: Hey, you know, you can stay in the car if you want.

Nestor Rosario: Shoot, no, man. I'm fine. Totally fine.

Jude Ellis: All right.

Nestor Rosario: You must've seen a lot in Oakland. Bodies.

Jude Ellis: Yeah. A few.

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